Conferences Based On Geography: The Improved Sun Belt
Welcome to the eighth installment of our summer series in which we realign the FBS conferences based on geography. To find out about the concept behind this idea and see our seventh previous revisions make sure you check out our summer series landing page. We release a new conference each week so feel free to bookmark the site so you don't miss any updates.
The Sun Belt has typically been one of the worst performing conferences in the FBS. A group of smaller schools spread across the southeastern United States that has been dwarfed by it's bigger neighbors. With this revision it really is an entirely new conference and has very little to do with the old Sun Belt. The "SEC" was redone last week and that is why we are now revamping the Sun Belt. Don't let the name throw you off here.
LEAGUE NAME: We need a new name for this conference since it needs a totally fresh image. In MLB spring training they have two leagues: the Cactus League in Arizona and the Grapefruit League in Florida. That second name keeps coming into my mind since all of the Florida schools are included here. As a result we now present to you: The Big Citrus Conference. There already is a Citrus Bowl, a Peach Bowl and an Orange Bowl. Citrus is a huge crop in that region so the name works for this conference.
THE SCHOOLS: Every conference wants part of the prize that lies in Florida and this conference shows it. Taking members of the SEC, ACC, Big East, Conference USA and Sun Belt. There is a fair amount of balance with three SEC schools and four SEC schools. USF is from the Big East and UCF desperately wants to join them. With seven members from Florida it would certainly be a Florida based conference but the Georgia and South Carolina schools are no slouches and will make they sure are heard at league meetings.
| Georgia | Florida | ||
| Georgia Tech | Miami | ||
| South Carolina | USF | ||
| Clemson | UCF | ||
| Florida State | Florida Atlantic | ||
| Florida International |

THE DISTANCE: Florida is one of the most deceptively long states in the Union. I once took a road trip from Chicago to a concert that was being held in the Big Cypress National Preserve that is midway between Naples and Miami. It took nearly the same amount of time to drive from Chicago to Atlanta as it did to get from Atlanta to our destination. Long story short here, that is a really long drive and be careful at Phish concerts.
Most people don't realize that the current Sun Belt stretches from Miami to Denver: a mere 2,065 miles. Denver is joining the WAC in 2012 so that is helping all parties involved. With our new version the separation is just 705 miles from Miami to Clemson, SC. That is a very manageable distance and would make travel very a breeze in this conference. The four northern schools are clustered together well so it works for them despite being separated from the Florida schools.
THE BORDERS: This almost could have become a Florida only conference except that there only seven schools in Florida. That forced us to add on in order to reach eight schools which is the minimum required by the NCAA for FBS schools. Therefore we added Georgia and Georgia Tech since they were the closest schools to the Florida schools. The addition of the Georgia schools also meant adding nearby Clemson and South Carolina.
PLUSES: There are plenty of powerful football teams with the major schools from Florida, Georgia and South Carolina. The amount of amazing young talent that exists in all three of these states is incredible. Recruiting could be done entirely in state if needed. Plenty of rivalry games are kept intact with this conference: Battle of the Palmetto State, Clean Old Fashioned Hate, Florida vs Georgia, Miami vs Florida State, and the all important Shula Bowl between Florida International and Florida Atlantic. Hopefully they rename that the Howard Schnellenberger Bowl down the road.
Florida certainly has the best basketball team of the group and the two national championships to prove it. FSU has also had success in hoops. You also get to see Isiah Thomas as a coach for FIU more often. Tell me that wouldn't be must watch television.
From top to bottom baseball is actually the strongest sport for this conference. South Carolina has two recent national titles and even the Sun Belt teams have strong teams on the diamond. This last year Florida, Florida State, South Carolina, Clemson and Georgia Tech were ranked in the top 10. Georgia, Miami and UCF were both in the top 25. Florida Atlantic was ranked the lowest at 55th and that is out of 300 teams. The conference tournament would almost be more exciting then the College World Series.
MINUSES: The smaller schools like Florida Atlantic and Florida International would get killed in football by these larger programs. Perhaps being in a stronger conference may help those programs gain better recruits and make them more competitive. There aren't a lot of glaring weaknesses with this conference. The SEC doesn't have wrestling as a sport, none of the ACC schools in this conference have wrestling programs.
UCF fans seem to drive all of their rivals crazy and think they should already be in the Big East, SEC or ACC. Plus Mike Bianchi would get his way, do we really want that to happen?
FINAL THOUGHTS: Out of state schools would hate this since it would be so much harder to get a recruit from Florida or Georgia and convince those players to go out of state. The College World Series may have to be moved (joke) from Omaha to Atlanta since there are so many strong baseball programs here. Florida's football team really hates to play outside the state of Florida so this would really make them happy.
This could be one the best conferences we've put together and would still have a national following despite it being a regional based conference.
Post your thoughts and comments below. Any other schools that you would have added or left out?
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Thanks. This one was a little late due to the Mountain West Media Days.
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Understandable. I mean this series made a kid from PA with no attachment at all to Wyoming join your blog, so again, job well done :)
Excellent.
The subliminal messages encrypted in these posts are working. You will now be a diehard Wyoming fan. :)
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by The Road on Jul 29, 2011 1:58 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
No.
Mike Bianchi is a close associate of Satan and should never get his way. Ever. Seriously. Never ever.
Dig the conference except UCF. Eleven teams is unwieldy and UCF is better suited for the Universities That Should Be Set Ablaze Then Relocated to the Bottom of the Ocean Conference.
Also, thanks for using the version of our helmet that doesn’t suck. Go Bulls.
by BleedGreenAndGold97 on Jul 29, 2011 7:48 AM MDT reply actions
Very interesting proposal
but sitting at 11 teams bothers me for some reason. I think the best candidate for team number 12 is probably Georgia Southern. They’ve been an FCS powerhouse for a while, and if they made the transition to FBS today, they would be no worse for prestige or competition than the Sun Belt/CUSA representatives already included. Very comparable to Troy University in the revamped SEC, imo; not likely to win it all at first, but not a true patsy either.
At 12 teams, there would have to be divisions and a conference championship game. I’d name the divisions “Palms” and “Pines” as a nod to the trees dominant in the region. Palms would consist of Clemson, South Carolina, Central Florida, Miami, FIU, and FAU, while the Pines would be Florida, Florida State, South Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Georgia Southern. Each team would have two protected cross-division rivalries, a la the initial SEC divisional plan, and two rotating opponents. The conference championship game should rotate, as Jacksonville, Atlanta, Tampa, and Miami all have excellent NFL stadia and very close proximity to member institutions.
Initially, this would be very tough on the schools not currently in BCS conferences, but I think eventually, a rising tide lifts all boats. Lots of households in the three states comprising the conference, and several schools with large, far-flung alumni bases should mean very lucrative TV contracts, allowing the less established teams to invest much more in facilities, etc. and still maintaining the status quo, financially speaking,for the traditional powers here. I like it!
by car.full.of.midgets on Jul 29, 2011 8:36 AM MDT reply actions
The Big 10 used 11 members for a long time without major issues.
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The Big Ten can print money, though
And #11 was Penn State. It did cause issues, though; with an 8 game schedule and 11 members (and there wasn’t any choice about that — ten would leave no room for non-con games, and nine conference games is mathematically impossible with 11 members) they inevitably ended up with a lot of ties for the conference title. Plus an odd number of teams makes scheduling wonky; someone has to have a bye or a non-con game when everyone else is playing (the Big Ten was helped out there by three teams having ND as a nearly-permanent fixture on their schedules).
Yeah, I guess it boils down to
a purely aesthetic preference for balance and the appeal of settling the conference championship with a plus one at the end of the regular season. I’m not a big fan of split titles, especially when BCS autobids come into play.
by car.full.of.midgets on Aug 1, 2011 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Other than UCF...
I dig the conference. Why stop at 11? Perhaps grab Troy and add them as well. Opens up exposure to Alabama and a Championship Game.
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I see you have Troy in the new SEC
So I’m on board with the idea of having Georgia Southern move up. The traveling fans alone from opposing schools would increase their income significantly.
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For real
though having driven through Statesboro, I’m not sure the town itself could handle the influx without major road improvements and a hotel boom.
by car.full.of.midgets on Jul 29, 2011 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions
Kinda have to think that wouldn't be a long term issue...
But I’ve never been to Statesboro. If there is money to be made a hotel will build and the additional tax revenue generated from increased spending should cover the roads.
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Yeah, it would undoubtedly be just a short term problem
and while the new hotels were being built, staying in Savannah would be a solid option for traveling fans. It’s about an hour’s drive between the two, and Savannah itself is a blast to visit.
by car.full.of.midgets on Jul 29, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I think GA Southern
would’ve moved up by now if they had interest. But I suppose if they where assured membership in a decent conference, they might change their minds. I would much rather have a GA State or have Kennesaw State finally get a team going. They could get the money easier. And for those who don’t know where GA State is, it’s only a couple of miles from GA Tech. I’m pretty sure they’d be the closest two schools in football. So that’d be cool I guess.
by Mark Mandingo on Jul 29, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
GA State played their inaugural season in 2010
as an FCS school, so they’ve got the ball rolling. Wikipedia says they’re joining the SoCon in 2012, so it appears they’re not shying away from competition. I think their program will follow more closely the trajectory of FIU/FAU than USF due to the presence of an established football brand in the same market. I could always be wrong though, and it will be interesting to watch them grow.
I can understand GA Southern wanting to remain a big fish in a small pond. As it stands, they do welll enough. In FBS they could be moderately successful, like Troy or Marshall, or they could completely tank, like Western Kentucky. Moving up isn’t always the best decision, but as you pointed out, power conference membership (and money) could be the deciding factor.
I’ve really enjoyed discussing the hypotheticals of this CFB shake up. I’m particularly eager to see what he’s got in store for the remaining ACC teams.
by car.full.of.midgets on Jul 29, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
GA State played their inaugural season in 2010
as an FCS school, so they’ve got the ball rolling. Wikipedia says they’re joining the SoCon in 2012, so it appears they’re not shying away from competition. I think their program will follow more closely the trajectory of FIU/FAU than USF due to the presence of an established football brand in the same market. I could always be wrong though, and it will be interesting to watch them grow.
I can understand GA Southern wanting to remain a big fish in a small pond. As it stands, they do welll enough. In FBS they could be moderately successful, like Troy or Marshall, or they could completely tank, like Western Kentucky. Moving up isn’t always the best decision, but as you pointed out, power conference membership (and money) could be the deciding factor.
I’ve really enjoyed discussing the hypotheticals of this CFB shake up. I’m particularly eager to see what he’s got in store for the remaining ACC teams.
by car.full.of.midgets on Jul 29, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
I am amazed that Georgia only has two FBS schools.
They could support a third easily I’m sure.
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Love this series
it’s like an alternate history fantasy. So much good here mate.
For this Citrus Conference, it is really strong football. The conference games would be wild but recruiting would be fierce. No high school kid would leave the state practically unless he really wanted to get away.
by SanFranciscoStateGaters on Aug 10, 2011 3:42 AM MDT reply actions

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